Dont take us out of Primary to go eat Treats! I would expect him to give a talk like that because he is so utterly black and white in his thinking and he never heard a strict utterance over the pulpit that he did not love. I know I dont have any say on when the thread closes, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from how each persons respective wards handled MD, and how the people assigned to talk felt their messages were delivered and/or received. I meant an ideal not an idea! We need ideals especially ones who arent ideal, so we can redefine ideal. If my kids are with me on MD I go, but FD is just too painful. I do look forward to handing the kids over to my husband for the day, but Ill take a pass on sacrament meeting. Sacrament meetings include music, talks, testimonies and prayers. Why is that or is that just in my ward? I was reading about the origins of Mothers Day. His explanation was not to offend any sister. All The water is a reminder that the Savior shed His blood in intense spiritual suffering and anguish, beginning in the Garden of Gethsemane and concluding on the cross. Love for mothers is good, but sometimes there is a fine, fine line between love and dysfunction. I think she says that just because she is my mom. Crowd-sourcing request. This was very informative and interesting. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. Last time I spoke on Mother's Day I was texting during my talk. Honestly, considering how touchy this subject is (women w/out kids, abusive moms, separated/divorced men who don't want to be, moms who've passed, etc), I'd focus on Womanhood. But arent mothers also sweet, like cookies? Nothanks to my back problems got to fly non-stop from Atlanta to Seattle. I come to church to be fed spiritually, and sappy poems and stories are never ever going to measure up to the meat that scriptural examples can provide. Also waiting by the library's tiny window with the Dutch door was a . The rest of us mortals should stick with real.. to hear my little kids sing and for my older kids to pass out a flower. I have been avoiding the mother's day sacrament meeting for the last couple of years. Products; . I dont think it would occur to anyone to give a man a plant for Fathers Day *, but its very common to give women plants for Mothers Day. Yes! Julie B. Beck reminds women what it means to be a mother who knows listing a number of attributes, including the principles of bearing children, honoring sacred covenants, nurturing others, doing less, teaching, and leading. She loved us unconditionally heart and soul. At my ward the angel mothers were to aspire to. Fun Photos of Latter-day Saint Leaders in the Snow! Many said not to assign "mother" or "female" focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your efforts simple as long as it is sincere. But since we have instituted Mothers Day as the day my family ditches church and meets my parents at Shoshone Falls for a picnic, I look forward to it every year. each year when I plan the Mother's Day sacrament meeting I feel an extra bit of pressure to make it special for our wives and mothers. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? I too have wrestled with the infertility monster and MD was always a nightmare. Do other Christian women struggle with church-going on this day? We were utterly gobsmacked. If you want to deal in rose-colored platitudes, you are probably gunning for the high council, so save it until then. I haven't a clue about how to interact at times. I would be totally okay if they did nothing for Mothers Day at church. Well, I wont bore you with all the mediocre talks over the years, I will just tell you that the best song for MD from the primary children was Armies of Helaman. I dont think sacrament meeting is such an inappropriate place to do that, either. She worked during the day and took classes at night, and created a home for her children where they knew love. I have suggested the donate-money-to-the-shelter thing for about four years now; it gets a blank stare, followed by a startled, oh! Some were difficult for metotell without choking up. She told us that as a girl, she would sit in her room crying, with big welts on the back of her hands, but now that she was grown up, she understood why her mother did it, and she was grateful, by golly. Im asking this out of genuine curiosity/responsibility for handing stuff out. Alece, I also love CS Lewis, and agree that we should look to higher ground in our mortal journey. Perhaps the reason so many women have an aversion to an all Sacrament Mtg. In the mean time, please, PLEASE, dont go hunting the sisters. No fuss, no muss. Its hard to please everyone. LDS Mom Launches Exciting New Party Game. Christian churchs teach that you are inherently bad, that it is not entirely your fault and that Christ has already saved you and after He gets around to telling you (if He hasnt already) that you forgiven and are His, you will do nonspecific good things he directs because you will naturally want to do them. But alas, Mother's Day 11 years ago will forever be known as the day I landed face down on the floor of the chapel, on top of my 3-year-old, in the middle of sacrament meeting, with my skirt flung over my head. She now works full time as a marketing and product manager, writer, and editor. please please please please dont pull us teachers from Primary for pie or talking. Mother's Day became the hardest day of the year for me. Thanks for reminding me so I can stay home. So no one is left out. A later version of the holiday occurred in Europe where they would celebrate the Mother Church (the church as the bride of Christ and as the mother of their spiritual rebirth through baptism) and they would decorate the church with flowers and jewels. Even men who are on diets. Any Advice? I agree Ray. The first speaker was a single father, then the bishop spoke, then the stake president spoke. Needless to say he was not asked to speak in sacrament meeting for a long, long time. No love in mortality comes closer to approximating the pure love of Jesus Christ than the selfless love a devoted mother has for her child.. His topic? It might be that it was a holiday originally conceived by the US Socialist Party and propagated by the Soviets. I dont mean to be rude, but I know I will have anxiety over killing it and then I *will* kill it and then I will have to look at its dead body. But guess what?! Get plenty HPs and Elders. Yesterday I enjoyed another Mother's Day sacrament meeting, typical with its children's songs, a talk from a young man about how wonderful mothers are, a talk from a sister about how wonderful women are, and a tearful talk from a brother about all the incredible mothers in his life. Mark did as well in his postminus the saccharine and accent. That cost a war pension. Just wondering. They would eat honey cakes and give flowers. As always, Kurt, I was happy to give you a hand with this! All women were given a 'present' which looked like a flower or something, I didn't inspect it; many men and women took extra ones to give to any mother or lady in the neighborhood, single, mother, any sister or non member. Enter your email address to follow BCC and receive new posts by email. on Mothers Day and donate it to a womens shelter. Ours, like most, has its strengths and its weaknesses. Maybe Ill get a pizza and tell the kids to cook it for breakfast when Sunday morning comes. Aleah Ingram May 3, 2021 Entertainment. There are diabetic men, arent there? I think we should dispense with handing out things and tell everyone weve made a donation to a local womens shelter or program for mothers in need. I actually gave two sacrament meeting talks on Mothers Day during our childless/infertile years. I choose to stay away for most MDs and all FD. She used several stories from the NT about Christ & his mother Mary to illustrate principles that we can all use to improve our relationships with others. Although I like the idea of them as well! Latter-day Saints to Attend Sacrament Meeting Only on Christmas Day Church Newsroom November 10, 2022 Church The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has. Your comment was excellent, especially this part: Jesus the Messiah wasnt just sinless, He was God. Why was she an ideal? She is buried in the same plot as my great-grandmother as well so it was nice to be able to be there with them again. Think about your message and how it will sound to the entire spectrum of your sisters in the ward. It can be any of those. My bishop knows where its at, and we always get Dove bars, Milk for those of unrefined taste and Dark for the rest of us. It was both simple and profound. Could someone remind of what the day is for after all? Yeah, it would be pretty late to be thinking about music now. Ere the sun goes down. MD really is a no-win. But since youre not, Im bowing out this year. The "Sacrament Meeting Program" app provides users a quick, easy way to create their sacrament meeting programs. Although, I hate how as a single man, some married women run from me cause they think Im going to try to seduce them or something. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christs atoning sacrifice. I would be all for that. Give the gift of time. What is the trigger to close the thread? I do think a lot of Mormon women enjoy talks that validate their efforts at motherhood, and I think some of these talks get interpreted as angel mother talks when theyre really not. Then the clincher, it is only for women to celebrate and they need to be left alone to celebrate it as they demand and see fit. The broken bread is a reminder of His body and His physical sufferingespecially His suffering on the cross. After a lot of thought and prayer I called two sisters to speak on some of the blessings and also the challenges of raising children in the gospel. . Check out our selection of LDS church programs for baptisms, church activities, and sacrament meetings. Even though Mothers Day is now a reasonably happy day for me personally, I still find that my mind is focused on how other women in my ward might be experiencing it. Feelings of guilt, shame, loneliness, anger, disappointment, abandonment, and not measuring up to impossible expectations are prevalent. But in Argentina, where Mothers Day is in October, they also tended to recognize International Womens Day (March 8) even in church (in addition to a wide variety of other holidays Childrens Day, Grandparents Day, etc.). Not until the 1600s did people start associating the holiday with their own actual mothers (Mothering Day in the UK). Not necessarily mothersjust women. In preparation for the sacrament each week, Church members take time to examine their lives and repent of sins. lesson about prayer. Your ward contains women at various stages of their lives, including some who dont have children and never will. God still loves her, and her life still had value and meaningTHE END!! I didnt realize Mothers Day was so close. In one of my wards, the women of the congregation were given wooden spoons as their gifts at the end of the meeting. The men work. Let's apply your logic standard to other holidays. Weve gathered this collection to help you study, write talks, and share powerful LDS quotes about mothers. And yeah, audience is important. Not all women can become real mothers. Yes. Ere the sun goes down: I know that traditionally it has been men and children who honor mothers. I am a single (divorced) old man with no children. The hard part for me is when I hear talks about angel mothers where I actually know whom they are talking about. This talk teaches us how rearing up children in righteousness can help keep them safe in an increasingly wicked world and how what happens in the home can benefit communities and nations. I agree with the chocolate, lack of talks, and the third hour refreshments! Just a question here, since I am new to this blog. The answer has been taught by the Lords prophets. My worst MD talk came in the Fast and Testimony meeting the week before in which my father, who was visiting since he no longer lived in our ward, decided to give some incredibly intimate details about his divorce and why he blamed it on several of his children, but not others. We teach that you are basically good or even great (gods in embryo), that you are responsible for your actions and that you can actually make other people do what is right through prayer and works especially your children, that the sins you accumulate both those of commission and omission are entirely your fault, that Christ is not really in the middle of the picture until you really screw up and commit something unforgiveable like adultery and that you need to try harder to keep every one of those commandments or you are going to lose your reward of having a planet & of having eternal sex , and the celestial DFAC will snatch your children from you and destroy your perfect family sprouting from the buried nuts of polygamy where mother valently hoisted the impossible burdens. Pres Hinckley and apparently Mark has it right. The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. Alece, its usually when the admins sense that the conversation is no longer productive, or when we dont have time or patience to keep monitoring the thread. Nothing, wakes people up in sacrament meeting like talking about chimpanzees dismembering each other. LDS Hymn Arrangements. Or should we just not celebrate anything or any role that a person may fulfill in life? Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Maybe we should do it eucharistic-like so I dont have to feel guilty? How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. Latter Day Arrangements is a sheet music resource for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other Christians. (Sorry to barge in madhousewife). Finally, Elder Holland offers his thanks to mothers around the world. May the blessings of heaven rest upon you. No, an inclusive talk will be about current and eternal womanhood, one part of which may including being a biological mother in mortal life. Can I suggest NOT sending the youth out hunting all women? I pray the Spirit will be with me today as I give this talk. Women are saved in child bearing is good as always. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice. Others must be killed or theyll live forever, injuring regular folk. What Can I Do? Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad. A year later he died in a car accident, and the children went back to mom, whose life was now very different. Ere the sun goes down. It isn't uncommon for LDS women to be dealing with some combination of the following factors: a difficult marriage, no marriage, no children, difficult children, health problems, loss of faith. I think its terribly sad that growing up Mormon, I never heard anyone make any serious attempt to talk about Heavenly Mother on Mothers Day. In simple terms his philosophy was that the church is not true because it is madeconsists of people who are imperfect and therefore not always true to all of the ideals taught. It was a one day break from the 40 day Lent cycle to give a feast in honor of Mom with cakes and flowers and her grown children visiting from afar. Focus on womanhood and examples of strong women, not on a perfect homemaker mother. Im sort of hoping that the person before me goes too long and I have to wrap up with my testimony. May 6, 2017 I must let my voice be heard, Ere the sun goes down: Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. I figure maybe in the next life I will be someones Heavenly Mother. It was designed with ward choirs and Sacrament Meeting musical numbers in mind. I am infertile, though I now have three children through adoption. How could I forget? This year in our ward we are having a missionary farewell for Mothers Daynot the old kind where the new missionary and all his/her family speak, but the new kind where the new missionary will be given a topic. Make it a FUN day!!! Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. Said she, If you havent convinced your mother that you love her the other 364 days of the year, nothing you say on Mothers Day is worth a damn.. It is a simple answer, and it is trueThe most important thing a father can do for his [daughter] is to love [her] mother.'. All Latter-day Saint Youth Need to Hear Ready to Rise, Popular Rapper Says He Wants to Be Baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FREE I Can Do All Things Through Christ Sheet Music + Music Video, Latter-day Saint Missionaries Perform Is There Room, Official 2023 Youth Theme Music Video: I Can Do All Things Through Christ, Popular Rapper Says He Wants to Be Baptized into The Church. Modal title . Gag. I remember my dad saying it was one of the most powerful and real talks hed ever heard in a Mormon church meeting. The perfect sacrament meeting talk? (i.e. Thanks for thinking of me, my youngest bishop son! Thats the last thing a mother needs, responsibility for yet another living thing. lol! Although the later version of Mothers Day in the US was to honor mothers, it retained its association with peace as carnations were given out as a symbol of peace (white if ones mother was dead, pink if alive). I have been given mostly free reign on my message. One thing I would add is that somehow we need to stop telling LDS women that they need to do everything in 6 days and 90% income with smiles on their faces and do it better than their non-LDS peers. We speak about it nearly every Sunday. And home teachers were not comfortable giving flowers or candy to a single sister. Primary kids singing, oh, 12 songs, and then someone real standing up and talking about the incredible power of hope, even when we feel that we dont measure up, and the wonder of the atonement and Gods love for us. Could someone remind of what the day is for after all? I dont like the sappy talks about the perfect mothers. So Im on for Mothers Day and have been assigned Julie Becks talk on the history of Relief Society as topic. Let us take as self-evident that, in reality, not all women are naturally pure or spiritual. Might spark some interesting conversations. Doesn't it seem strange in a religion that supposedly is so family focused that we have people who ignore the cries of many of the women in church who want to be mothers and can't be or who sorrow over children who are not making good eternal choices? Through the shedding of His blood, Jesus Christ saved all people from what the scriptures call the original guilt of Adams transgression (Moses 6:54). Based on the comments it seems to be prevalent everywhere in the US church. Home & Family. In order to equally celebrate Fatherhood , the males (12 years+) all get Nachos on Fathers Day (served up by the RS Presidency.). A friend once proposed a thought experiment. I was dreading it, but I was rescued by my sister coming to town for the next 3 days yayyyy. Thanks! I had some ideas but didn't want to repeat anything that had already been done from the Primary. I was honored to have known her, and to have been able to claim her as my own. What do you think when you see a used car lot with a sign like this: Honest Abes Used Cars! especially when there are clear re-phrasings and clarifications. Im also a High Councilor, who always tries very much not to speak in rose-colored platitudes that, sadly, you associate with High Council speakers. Speechless. Personally, I go to church to learn about Jesus and Christ like attributes. I am glad you had a good father, but honestly, that attitude is what keeps me away. Although Mothers Day is not fraught for me the way it is for so many, I will be watching with interest next Sunday to see which way our meeitng falls. My preference is for a talk focusing on women of the scriptures. Being Mother's Day, that meant the soft seats up front were filled with grandmothers and other maternal figures visiting for the weekend, which meant latecomers like the Lemons got metal seats in the back this week. President Hinckley addressed all the women of the Church and thanked them for all the work they do in their families, congregations, and communities. Have all the talks be by women. #16 They asked him to speak again?! For the injured interceding, She never got her kids back and they never forgave her, and she died of some incurable stress induced disease. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". Oh, we also get candy bars with the flowers, music in sacrament and the 3rd hour social time. He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood. Ere the sun goes down, Ohand did you say you had an extra ticket??? Not an official website of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The first speaker was my favorite. It was my missionary farewell, back when such things were acceptable. Oh, and my husband is speaking in our ward this Mothers Day.
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