1.100 in. You can post now and register later. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. I sold off all except Titegroup. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. JavaScript is disabled. My brother gave me some Titegroup. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Makes 900fps out of my G17. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Obligatory start low and work your way up Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. I am using CBI pistol powder. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. I havent had a problem yet. YMMV. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. containers. This powder is very popular. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 We will pass. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Seen a few of those over the years. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. JavaScript is disabled. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. Clear editor. I do know its about mid charge range tho. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. . The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. JavaScript is disabled. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Thanks for your patience. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. Then work up from there. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I want to be safe. Reply Quote. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Pasted as rich text. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! I remember seeing something similar here long time back. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. 6 grains? Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. It's for practice, not for competition. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. No Charges? The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. JavaScript is disabled. Warning! Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. LOL. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. This is a flattened spherical powder. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. What is your favorite firearm to load for? A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting.
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