bona natural seal on white oak

The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. @Moran Blueshtein. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Intense seal will cast yellowing. We are building next year and making decisions now. White streaks in floor. Argh. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Really not read much about IntenSeal? Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. So far, this seems to be going well. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. That's what I ended up doing. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . The light white washing will give you the raw look. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. I'm sorry you felt diminished. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. I am on info overload. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. I'd love to know if you end up liking your final product and would welcome any photos! Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. He can work a section. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. That's how building law works. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. Imagine if that would have been quartz? @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! :). It could be as low as $2/sf. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. Its for a new build. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. I knew this was IT. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. I absolutely love the floors. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. 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Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. Gravity works. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Training costs money. . (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. Yep. Heres a photo of our family room. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? See the before and afters and why we chose this color. I do love the natural color. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! But that's all it does. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). I could also put hot pots on the stainless. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). You have NOT hired installer yet! Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. Thanks for the responses. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. less. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. Thank you. That makes SOOOO much sense. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Sigh. They did a great job. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. ! William Smith, D.D., was Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. Get ready for a LONG story! There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. I was asked two separate questions. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Web108K views 6 years ago. In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. Each to their own. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Any suggestions would be great. WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). Your floors are as important as your roof. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. Matte looks a bit dull. Sigh. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? It requires a special approach. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". 3 coats in one day. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. (Just read the dog drool threads.) And, to be fair to the above poster. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. 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That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. A hint of tan. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. It did not affect the color. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? It will make the white oak whiter. white oak hardwood flooring. Then go with water based and be done with it. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! It was applied Saturday morning. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Look out for inexperience. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. ! The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. More great information. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. If, you want a raw pale look. Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee.

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